To start off, let's about the topic at hand; Squall vs. Cloud. Squall would dominate Cloud for tons of reasons. First of all, squall's Lion Heart does 20 hits continuously add that to the initial limit break followed by the bonuses within the limit breaks. let's say he does 5000 damage per hit which is as if he hadn't junctioned at all. Adding 20 continuous hits, that's already 100,000 damage if you were to include the initial and bonuses it would be 5 more hits which would be 25,000 eqaulizing 125,000 damage in one turn. Heh, it would kill cloud ten times before he hits the ground. That's without the junctions, let's say he does junction with ultima as his STR and apocolypse as his HP. Squall would do an average of 8745 damage per hit, now let's multiply that with 25 equalizing 218,625 damage and thats on average, he does up to 9999 sometimes so there's a possibility that the damage can be even greater. In addition, squall can use trial hero, hero, or war hero to become invincible so that he can't be hit, I also haven't mentioned the battle tatics in conjunction with the abilities that the GF's have devour, autohaste, instant start ability, THE END(instant kill 100%),autoheal,KAMAZE (could do up to 54308 damage), ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. Not to mention the other junction functionalities such as sleep, zombie, poison and all those other other other stuff.

Fist fights..? :evillaugh Zell would beat the living crap out of any of those characters in Final Fantasy VII with his unique limit breaks and his damage on an adverage of 9102 damage, he'll beat the living crap out of all those characters from Final Fantasy VII with his Kung-fu, Karate, Shaolin Boxing, Drunken Boxing styles.

The junction method used in Final Fantasy VIII can be advanced to a very high point, nontheless, Final Fantasy VII's fighting method can also utilize to high extends as well. However, comparing it to Final Fantasy VIII's battle methods to Final Fantasy VII's battle method is just like a trying to penetrate through a 4 feet brick wall by throwing eggs at it versus jumping over it. Final Fantasy VIII's battle tatics are advanced for a reason, if it is to sophisticated for some of you people, then I suggest you go back playing good old pac man instead.

I'd also like to clearify Cloud's actual characteristics, first of all cloud is not a well developped character, notice in Final Fantasy VII he doesn't really have a a straight-forward personality. Cloud chooses to do one thing and later on, he does something totally different. He said he didn't want to save the world....what emotion outbreak did he undergo to change his thoughts...? Because it seemed to me that he was very defiant when it came to money versus saving the world. If you call squall a wussy, at least he's more human that the little midget that can't even reach his sword(cloud) or if calling him a midget isn't enough, how about calling him a maggot?

In addtion to that, Squall, I believed had two girls liking him too; one, Rinoa, which originally liked someone else and two, Quistis, which liked Squall, but never said it aloud(which don't look like cylinder's with breasts that they can't seem to handle without falling over).